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Makkert · Jun 20, 2007, 04:30 AM // 04:30

solid update.

/clap.

I laughed at the 'played HA and got spiked by rits as always' remark though, that was gold.

ValaOfTheFens · Jun 20, 2007, 04:42 AM // 04:42

I wasn't really affected by this update at all. I guess I'm upset that Faintheartedness got nerfed. You wanna know something weird? I never even thought to use it in PvP.

I've used Shadow of Fear though b/c its a blanket hex.

xDusT II · Jun 20, 2007, 05:36 AM // 05:36

Very nice update. Now we just have to brace ourselves for the army of PvE'ers that are going to whine about SF being nerfed.

arcanemacabre · Jun 20, 2007, 05:50 AM // 05:50

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Originally Posted by xDusT II

Very nice update. Now we just have to brace ourselves for the army of PvE'ers that are going to whine about SF being nerfed.

It's funny, cause I am a PvEer who has an Ele, and I've used SF with reckless abandon - and I love this nerf. I honestly think it's not enough of a hit. It's just too damn powerful in PvE. I don't like the nerf to Mark of Rodgort, though, it seemed balanced enough before. Ah well, I'll still use it, it's just going to be a bit more of a pain.

Although this update is what, 95% nerf, I really don't mind it at all. Seems like decent balance changes here.

Alderin · Jun 20, 2007, 05:56 AM // 05:56

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Originally Posted by xDusT II

Very nice update. Now we just have to brace ourselves for the army of PvE'ers that are going to whine about SF being nerfed.

Well given I'm a primary PvEist and my main character is an Elementalist so I guess what I'm getting at is nerf Searing Flames to also have a 3 second recharge time as well. This nerf hinders it more but still could use that extra second on the recharge.
Though Mark of Rodgort didn't need the have that long of a recharge.

keli · Jun 20, 2007, 05:57 AM // 05:57

nice update indeed

XvArchonvX · Jun 20, 2007, 05:59 AM // 05:59

Although I try to dabble in both worlds, I am considered more of a PvEer and I like this update. As much as I liked SF making Urgoz runs easier, the skill had it coming. The nerf on hexes was also a welcome relief as they really were overpowered. Rit spike probably does deserve a good nerf, but they'll have to be careful with that one. Too much of a nerf and Rits will be used for little more than spirit spamming in a lot of places, which is something a lot of people hate as well.

I'm also pleasantly surprised to see such a good response over an update as opposed to the normal flamefest. Maybe there is hope for the GW community yet, lol.

The Great Al · Jun 20, 2007, 06:00 AM // 06:00

Is SF powerful? Yes. However, what makes it seem more powerful is that it's basically the only usable elite for a pyromancer. If you're going to nerf SF, at least give us something else to work with (not that I'm implying that SF was nerfed to the point of it being unusable, it's still a great spell).

JonnyWarhawk · Jun 20, 2007, 06:12 AM // 06:12

Weird... I just started playing and I'm amazed that they do patches this often.

placebo overdose · Jun 20, 2007, 06:14 AM // 06:14

really for SF i wanna see a mid 80's damage max but longer burn more like 6 seconds faintheartedness was my rival and im glad to see it die i would never use enraging charge anymore too long of a recharge cripslash is still fine just one more swing to charge it up so what

Seef II · Jun 20, 2007, 06:28 AM // 06:28

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Originally Posted by JonnyWarhawk

Weird... I just started playing and I'm amazed that they do patches this often.

Balance patches are usually 2-3 months apart. Enjoy this while it lasts. :\

Patrick Smit · Jun 20, 2007, 06:32 AM // 06:32

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Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

Yah I always thought Faintheartedness was a HUGE duration for the immense effects it had...

Yay for STARTING (not finished, I HOPE) toning down the hex meta!!!

The buff to Hex eater signet actually makes it PLAYABLE. Gee wiz.

Convert Hexes is more playable, but it demands energy so we're more likely to see it on a ele/mes/necro than a monk.

I have seen many a positive remark about convert hexes, its a very interesting spell right now to take against hexways. And I think you are right about where the spell is going to land, even at 0 or 1 protection it is interesting, while the midliner can use soem nice energy management to control the cost this spell.

Shuuda · Jun 20, 2007, 06:44 AM // 06:44

Awsome update, I'd say more but I'd be repeating what you all said.

P.S: it's very nice to see some update lovin' on fan forums for a change. No joke.

Surena · Jun 20, 2007, 07:44 AM // 07:44

Good one. Hexes were too strong and some still are. Gheyheartedness had a very long duration.

The "Crippling Slash" change was needed, it was too good, too easy to apply.

A "miss cap" is needed. Price of Failure + Spirit of Failure + Reckless Haste=idiocy - or scale the miss percentage with the attribute.

keli · Jun 20, 2007, 08:00 AM // 08:00

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Originally Posted by The Great Al

Is SF powerful? Yes. However, what makes it seem more powerful is that it's basically the only usable elite for a pyromancer. If you're going to nerf SF, at least give us something else to work with (not that I'm implying that SF was nerfed to the point of it being unusable, it's still a great spell).

savannah heat is much more powerful with a decent build

Ferret · Jun 20, 2007, 08:07 AM // 08:07

Warrior
* Enraging Charge: decreased adrenaline gained to 0..4 strikes

...why? It often only just gave enough adrenaline to trigger my first skill as it was...i cant see the reasoning behind this nerf.

As for Searing Flames...does anyone have what it was before the nerf, to compare them?

pork soldier · Jun 20, 2007, 08:08 AM // 08:08

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Originally Posted by Ferret

Warrior
* Enraging Charge: decreased adrenaline gained to 0..4 strikes

...why? It often only just gave enough adrenaline to trigger my first skill as it was...i cant see the reasoning behind this nerf.

You couldn't have explained the reasoning better - you could adrenal spike without any build time. Enraging, strike, spike. That was too strong.

I Will Heal You Ally · Jun 20, 2007, 08:17 AM // 08:17

Wow! I'm getting frustrated about the ele nerfs!!! If you want to nerf every single ele spell why don't you just remove eles from the game. It will make us live longer :P

EDIT: Are ANet trying to make mez like eles by buffing their skills and lowering ours, to make a balance between us two? Although ele skills are still useable better make all skill balances then one by one (shock after shock) :P
Hehehe it's HEX REMOVAL DAY today ^^

Miral · Jun 20, 2007, 08:18 AM // 08:18

the nerf to cripling slash makes sense but why nerf that AND enraging charge? and some of the hex nerfs... are just sad.
please, take the time and give skills a pve function and a pvp function. otherwise these pvp-based balance changes are going to kill any hope for guild wars 2 in a lot of people

pork soldier · Jun 20, 2007, 08:22 AM // 08:22

I think you guys need to QQ less, the skills are still _very_ useful for pve.